Podcast #276: On Book Banning
Quillette podcast host Jonathan Kay speaks with author Ira Wells about the censorship demands emanating from both sides of the political spectrum.

HOST: Welcome to the Quillette Podcast, which is usually hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia. Quillette is where free thought lives. We are an independent, grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless commentary.

And this week, we’re going to be talking about book banning, with University of Toronto English professor Ira Wells, author of a newly published Biblioasis book titled, simply enough, On Book Banning.
As Ira writes, the urge to ban books is older than the printing press. Even the Ancient Romans tried to burn books they didn’t like—though, as Tacitus reminds us, these efforts often backfired.
When it comes to modern times, Wells writes, the instinct to ban books is alive and well on both sides of the political spectrum. And yes, trigger warning, you’re going to be hearing plenty of so-called “both-sidesism” in this podcast episode.
Using Florida as a case study, Wells describes how conservatives have tried to suppress books they accuse of indoctrinating children into LGBT lifestyles. Meanwhile, here in Ontario, Canada, where both Ira and I live, progressive censors have used anti-racism and related doctrines as a pretext to strip thousands of books from shelves—in some cases for no other reason than that the book was written more than fifteen years ago, and so is presumptively unrepresentative of modern progressive values.
And full disclosure: Ira is my neighbour here in Toronto—and our children attended the same elementary school, which shall go unnamed, of course. As part of his research, Ira took the school up on its offer to come observe how the new progressive book-purging policy would work.

Ira even took part in a so-called book audit, to determine if books such as Suki’s Kimono are sufficiently anti-racist to save from banishment.
Please enjoy my interview with Ira Wells, author of the newly published Biblioasis book, On Book Banning.
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