Quillette Podcast 6 – Coleman Hughes on Progressive Orthodoxy in the Ivy League

Canadian editor Jonathan Kay talks to Coleman Hughes, Quillette columnist and Columbia University student, about being out of step with the prevailing orthodoxy at an Ivy League college, classical liberalism and playing in Rihanna’s backup band in 2016.


  1. Num num says

    It is marvelous that someone as young as Coleman has such well-reasoned, informed, defined, original and eloquently articulated perspectives on complex issues. He’s easily in the same league as our favorite heavy hitters, and only recently an adult. A truly awesome mind shines before us!

    Coleman’s point here about the locality of racism versus the power narrative of racism is so adept. Following the host’s soft argument (from time 18:54) for racism being ‘discrimination + power’, Coleman presents the sage insight that context matters. White privilege/power is not like a gas that uniformly fills the entire space of the USA. I had thought about this too with respect to whites living in black-majority neighborhoods or a white child going to a black-majority school. Not only do they lack local-social power in those contexts, but background “Social Justice” ideology in the minds of those around them puts them at even greater risk of negative consequences of lacking local power. SJ-promoted hatred of whites will surely encourage ‘white flight’ and thereby white identitarianism even among otherwise liberal whites.

    The context-dependent, nonuniform and local nature of group power is one reason why we should adopt and strive for a universal colorblind ethos under which racism can be perpetrated by anyone of any race. Colorblind ethos was the goal of anti-racism for all my life since the 60s until only recently, around 2012. Then the idea that racism can only be perpetrated by whites began to predominate, a view that is itself applied racism.

    • Skept-o-Punk says

      I was very impressed with Coleman’s take on this as well. The MSM keeps promoting this idea that right-wing hate groups are on the rise. Frankly a complete bogey man as these groups are pathetically small and have zero institutional power. It doesn’t help that the myriad of highly publicized “hate-crime” incidents keep being discovered to be hoaxes carried our by members so-called “marginalized” groups. All that said, you’re spot on that these SJW far-left groups anti-white, anti-men rhetoric — and actions by “Antifa” (Translation: Anarcho-Socialists who actually use fascist-like violence in their effort to fight “fascists”) — will only add fuel to the fire of the growing reaction to their insanity and the far-right will start to grow in proportion to the attack on whites. And the MSM is very complicate in all of this as they need an evil bogeyman to drive clicks and eyeballs to their dying platforms.

  2. The podcasts are getting better, but still too unbalanced. The interviewer and the subject basically share the same worldview.

  3. David says

    The Quillette Podcast FAILS simply because it is not the first and most important thing a podcast should be – portable. Nowhere do you see a simple download link on a podcast’s homepage. If you want to listen, you are forced off-site to a whooshka.com site which then shoves the content down your throat from a captive online player, and only then – if you’re lucky – you notice a tiny and obscure graphic that signals a download link. But clicking that download icon only opens another page with yet another embedded player which starts blasting away. At that point your only recourse is to study the last embedded player page to discover that if you right click the player itself there is a downloadable .mp3 file that can be saved. Once you do that, the content (finally) becomes portable! You can pop it in your phone or music player device and take it with you on a lovely walk in the woods or a drive in the country where there are NO cellular or internet connections to fade in and out and threaten you with data caps.

    To the producers of the Quillette Podcast: Please buck the trend that obscure is cool in Web design; it isn’t – it’s simply bad design. Put a simple .mp3 file Download link right smack at the top of a podcast’s home page where you can’t miss it; then make sure that when you click the link, a download actually happens.

    And while you’re at it, put up a very simple page containing all the podcast download links, and call it an “Archive”. No scripting bloat, no flashy graphics, just a page of download links listed by date and subject. Neat idea, ya think?

    Thank You, David
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    • Jeremy H says

      Hi, David, Quillette doesn’t need to do this because no one listens to podcasts directly from the web unless they want to rip their own hair out in frustration (as you seem close to). Just download an app like Podcast Addict (what I use but there are many) and your podcast nightmares will be over. A search for “Quillette Podcast” will give you access all their episodes and notify you whenever there’s a new one. It will do this for all the podcasts you might be interested in. On top of that most apps will let you organize subscriptions, give you access to archives (with summaries), as well as track episodes you’ve already listened to and let you set up playlists.

      Hope this helps.

      • Second @Jeremy H. Btw, I use castbox. But if you go on any of these apps, all you need to do is type “Quillette” and you will find all their podcasts ready to be downloaded and listened to.

        • ^Ditto

          Quillette comes up in both Overcast and the Apple Podcast app.

  4. Thurston says

    How do I subscribe to the Quillette podcast via a podcatcher that uses RSS? E.g. MediaMonkey.

  5. My estimation of Coleman’s IQ revises upward every time I hear him speak. He has made some points in this podcast that simply left me in awe. Frankly when I’m done listening to him I find myself looking for a place to send some cash. What projects is he embracing? Coleman has the potential to have a powerful impact on our western culture, and I want to support that.

  6. As a conservative living in a very liberal community, here’s my take this series. I’ve listened to the first four podcasts, so I hope these issues are addressed in the future:

    While much of the information provided in the podcast is introduced via rhetoric, intentionally slanted and simply inaccurate, there’s a few great ideas buried in mix of biased discussions (examples below). It’s takes a lot of energy and fact checking to separate the misinformation and bad judgement from the factually correct information, but it’s been well worth the effort for me, and I’ll continue to listen despite the poor science and journalism described below.

    Much of the information presented by guests is grossly inaccurate and should be vetted out by the podcast if they want to be viewed as a source of science and reason.

    Dr. Jordan Peterson’s interview was especially poor.
    1 – The information he presents to support his views in incorrect. Five minutes of fact checking will discredit him (e.g. his ’safe places’ statements)
    2 – He cites research that has been widely discredited, while ignoring widely available research that contradicts his ideas (e.g. Head Start effectiveness)
    3 – He cites research, without identifying the specific source
    4 – His presumption of the coddling of youth in universities isn’t substantiated (e.g. pursuing diversity, and helping students with weaknesses isn’t coddling), nor have these behaviors been demonstrated to have a negative impact on student outcomes.

    The podcast host is especially biased, and is worst part of the podcast. While I enjoy his extensive vocabulary, it’s too bad that he focuses his mental energy on ugly distracting rhetoric, rather than pursuing logic and truth. Here’s a couple of examples of his name calling from episode 1.

    “Social Justice Warrior Left”
    “Post Modern Neo Marxist Left”
    “Racial Self Flagellation”
    “Regressive identitarian Left”

    if Quillitte would get a less biased host, that would truly pursue good independent thought, this podcast could be great.


    • Num num says

      12MM, without quotations of exactly what statements Peterson made that are false or at least time-targeted pointers to the statements in the other podcast, your criticisms of him are just empty claims.

      That said, I’ll agree that he’s not perfect–but then who is. So I’m open to his fallibility and your accuracy.

  7. ga gamba says

    I enjoyed this discussion. One minor complaint, a quibble really. This was recorded in August and now it’s far from that month. Mr Young mentions that he’ll get back with Mr Hughes later in the school year to find out how the semester went, and this conversation, which should have happened by now, ought to have been included in this December podcast or the beginning edited to exclude mentions of August and how Hughes’s classmate may react to his essays. I’d like to know this, so raising my expectation and then dashing it… it’s like the Grinch visited my Christmas.

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